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Common Good Democracy™ - How Is It Better Than Other Systems?


The common good bank™ voting system is a combination of many democratic methods, each of which has its own virtues (see "Where Is It Used") and shortcomings (see below). Here are some of those components and their shortcomings, in comparison to the common good bank system:

  • Simple majority vote (first-past-the-pole plurality) gives voters no opportunity to voice their second choice. As a result, in multiple option votes, people tend to vote for an option that they think might win, rather than their top choice. Majority vote gives no voice to the minority and fails most voting criteria.
  • Approval voting, without ranked pairs, gives voters no opportunity to express a preference of one choice over another, unless one of those choices is completely unacceptable.
  • Condorcet voting, without vetoes, gives no voice to the minority's strongly held beliefs.
  • Consensus decision-making (including strict consensus, formal consensus and sociocracy) is unworkable in a large group with no common bond and occasional sociopaths. The common good bank™ system operates in a spirit of consensus without getting waylaid by difficult individuals.
  • Hierarchical decision-making (for example, the president decides everything) disempowers and alienates people from the community. The common good bank™ system empowers people and brings people together.
  • Representative democracy, without optional direct voting, dumbs us down by choosing one person to think and make decisions for a multitude, despite the desire and ability of many constituents to participate in such decisions. (Many heads are better than one.) When elected by majority vote, the representative cannot plausibly represent the constituents who voted for someone else.
  • Direct democracy, without optional representatives, leaves out everyone who doesn't vote directly.
  • In-person voting (such as in New England town meetings), without optional voting from afar, leaves out everyone who doesn't come to vote in person.
  • Internet-only discussion and voting misses out on the community-building experience of in-person discussions and visits to the voting site.
  • Budgeting by yes/no votes on line items proposed by committee, leaves very little choice to the voters.


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11:10 pm
March 1, 2010


wspademan

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posts 46

rseserman said:

Even the concept of running the bank democratically was questioned: “If Joe has enough friends to vote funding for Joe’s business which will eventually fail, what good does for the community” or “Democracy is good as an oversight mechanism but operationally… how would be the army to operate democratically?”

The democratic process maybe can be changed from an active involvement, which is also very time consuming, to a passive way. I am thinking to ask members to allocate their money over a given set of  areas of lending as they join. They can change the allocation as they want  but at their own convenience thus avoiding a periodic voting process that can be very counter productive. The actual lending decisions will be left for lending professionals, trained to the bank rules.

We do not plan to make business (operational) decisions democratically. Depositors will set lending priorities, but will not decide on individual loans.

Depositors always have the choice whether or not to be actively involved in decisions that are in their domain. Taking away that choice would decrease democracy with no benefit to the depositors. It is important that SOMEONE think again about the lending priorities from time to time, because the situation in the community is always changing. The depositors should be allowed a voice in those discussions and decisions.

8:20 pm
February 22, 2010


wspademan

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posts 46

Post edited 8:21 pm - February 22, 2010 by wspademan


Ted Millich said:You need to find out about Dynamic Governance, or Sociocracy.


Sociocracy is a great way to govern an organization and we expect to incorporate principles of sociocracy in running the bank business. Depositors, on the other hand, will not be making decisions about an organization but rather about funding the common good; so some features of sociocracy would be unnecessarily cumbersome. Still, we expect that communities will use, in their in-person discussions, many principles of sociocracy and other disciplines such as varieties of ConsensusDeep Democracy, etc.

11:06 pm
February 21, 2010


wspademan

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posts 46

Philip Beard said:It's unclear how the multiple-choice preference example given (A+ABCDFNo) relates to the Condorcet paired-preference method. Aren't you conflating the two here?


Multiple choice grading is a way of expressing preferences. Condorcet is a way of analyzing data and calculating results.There is no conflict between them.

If someone grades option #1 "A" and option #2 "C", for example, it is clear that the person prefers option #1 to option #2. Similarly, if the person grades two options the same, then we can infer that the person has no preference between the two options. This is all the information that is required for Condorcet calculation.

Grading gives more information with less effort, than having to compare each pair of options individually.

3:06 pm
November 9, 2009


Trevor

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http://www.directrep.org is a site about Direct Representation.

10:48 am
January 16, 2010


Philip Beard

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It's unclear how the multiple-choice preference example given (A+ABCDFNo) relates to the Condorcet paired-preference method. Aren't you conflating the two here?

3:07 pm
January 8, 2010


Ted Millich

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You need to find out about Dynamic Governance, or Sociocracy. It is a governance method that has been designed over many years using trial and error, and knowledge of technical disciplines like cybernetics, chaos theory, electronics, etc. The most amazing thing about this method is it keeps people equivalent in power. It works well and you can find out more about it at http://www.beyonddemocracythefilm.com

Please reply to me if you're from Common Good Finance.

Have a great day!

8:54 pm
February 21, 2010


wspademan

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posts 46

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