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Organizational Structure – Proposal

Context

In the Common Good Economy, decisions will be made independently in each Common Good Community, about how to accomplish their mission (make the community sustainable, get everyone’s basic needs met, and help people elsewhere). And they will be empowered — with money — to act on those decisions.

We want the organizational structure of Common Good Finance to reflect those same principles. This means that decision-making and authority must be spread out through the organization, rather than residing solely in a few individuals in a hierarchy like this:


Our Senior Policy Analyst John G. Root, Jr. has proposed a solution. He suggests a system of Organizing Circles, based on sociocracy.

Origins

The idea is very simple and very similar to the committee/subcommittee structure typical of many small nonprofits and the workgroup  structure of many corporations (see diagram). Each committee and subcommittee is a team, charged with a specific mission. Representatives from related teams meet to coordinate their efforts in service to the larger mission of the “parent” committee.Team members may be volunteers, paid staff, consultants, or a mix, depending on the organization. Typically, committees and subcommittees are convened by someone in the parent committee, to take on a specific aspect of the parent’s overall mission.

Differences

That’s the conventional committee/subcommittee model. So how are Organizing Circles different? Two ways:

1. In the Organizing Circle model, each “child” team has not one but two people who participate on the parent committee:

  • an elected representative of the child committee represents that team’s interests in the parent committee
  • the convener represents the parent’s interests in the child committee

2. Subcommittees are created by invitation rather than by appointment. The invitation to participate on a subcommittee goes out to all members of the organization and details the skills, responsibilities, and commitment required.

Significance

At first glance these differences sound trivial and inefficient. But they have three enormously important results:

  • Leadership. Leadership arises from both directions. People who are identified by their peers as potential leaders get elected to a position of broader authority (serving on the parent committee). And a person in a position of authority (serving on a parent committee) can take on leadership by convening a subcommittee. This system allows proven, trusted leaders to “bubble up” from the trenches.
  • Accountability. Leaders are accountable not just to a single boss, but also to two entire committees — not just to their own leader, but to their peers and followers as well.
  • Discipline. Mission and expectations throughout the organization are clear (in writing!) right from the beginning.

That’s it. That is the essence of Organizing Circles.

Board

One final piece: Where does the board of directors fit in? and the Executive Director?

We are proposing that the system be used throughout our organization, so that the board is the top-level parent committee and its subcommittees elect representatives to join the board. The board will elect an Executive Director. Leaders of committees will be accountable to their committee members and to the board as a whole as well as to the Executive Director. The Executive Director will represent the organization to the public. The IRS and other governmental agencies will represent the public to the board in the usual ways.

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Organizational Structure - Proposal

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11:29 am
February 15, 2011


wspademan

Admin

posts 218

Post edited 11:52 am - February 15, 2011 by wspademan


See our proposed organizational structure for Common Good Finance: click here.

9:11 pm
November 4, 2011


Jim Miller

Guest

My recommendations are:

1. Create the community of good folks first by mutual help and caring -- acts not just good words.

2.  Form a federally chartered credit union (FCCU) which is member owned and member managed in which we can each start a savings account.  Keep to the Mondragon model -- each member has one vote.  See: http://masallp.wetpaint.com

3.  Create a Small Business Investment Exchange so that equity funds can be gathered and invested in L3C's.

4.  Create many small L3C businesses which have access to loan funds from the FCCU and equity funds from the Small Business Investment Exchange:  http://sbic.wetpaint.com

5.  Create a PAC so that we can financially and politically support ethical and competent canidates for public office.

6.  Help form a political party to fight for offices against the Republicratic Party.  See:  http://thedragonsteeth.wetpain.....+NEW+PARTY

7. Keep in touch through a wikiweb, such as http://www.wetpaintcentral.com

Jim Miller

jimmiler5417@gmail.com

 

7:28 am
June 8, 2011


Richard Todd Chinnock

Admin

posts 39

Michel Sam,

 

I completely agree that we are near currency failure.  To my mind that is when we get our big break.  However, I do not find gold and silver to be the answer to that failure.  Oh for sure i've got my treasure chest filled with 50 or so ounces of silver.  I've got my seeds for gardening.  I've got my posse and escape plan to the mountains.  I've got the guns and bullets to back it up.  I'm ready.

 

But that is not the future I want to create.  That is my extreme backup to preserve the species plan.  We don't neccesarily need to hit rock bottom before we wake up.  And waking up to what CGB is offering is that money ought to be considered a system of Accounting.  Once the system crashes then we have the mandate to institute our interest free system of accounting.

 

If we use gold and silver then we will never free ourselves from the burden of interest.

7:02 pm
May 12, 2011


Michel Sam

Guest

I think we're near a currency failure. Have you addressed holding some gold and silver or at least investing in a gold and/or silver closed end fund?

Some stuff just came out today on Wikileakia about plans, dating back to the Clinton years, to use force against Canada if necessary to assure access to Arctic oil (this is the worst news to date from that source that was forced off the Internet) .

The dollar is totally overvalued considering the yearly deficit has doubled in one year. 

Gold and silver are being held down to hide the dollar's weakness.

Russia and China now trade without the dollar.

Some US, state and local government , the biggest banks and some of the biggest corporations are run by people without any empathy and compassion.

What's your escape plan for a currency failure?

People will either accept gold and silver, or barter.

I think the prudent thing to do is to hold some some gold and silver.

Are you holding any?

 

 

 

5:45 am
February 27, 2011


Richard Todd Chinnock

Admin

posts 39

 

Greetings Brian,

 

Wow, to be honest I didn't sense anything new agey about the bettermeans video.  Sure, there was a little tidbit about spiritual fulfillment there at the very end.  1 second sound bite?  Hardly the new age inquisition.  Considering over 85% of the worlds population believes in God/Gods they most likely have a personal moral interest in speaking to those who understand their languaging.  Getting along with the "spiritual" is not a "problem" that is going to go away.  That is why the empowerment afforded us in the Common Good Economy includes the autonomy of each Common Good Community through their local Members Association to direct the course of the local bank branch.

 

We'd better have a resilient model!

 

CGB-Blue State, pro-abortion chapter

CGB- Red State, pro-life chapter

 

Obviously this is a grossly over simplified example but I hope the point is clear.  As long as we recognize each other in our sovereign capacities we will understand that one is never to commit violence due to an contrariwise concept to our position.  Your will is supreme!  Never Forget!  Never Forget!  Never Forget!  I will never commit violence to you or your kin for believing in Person-hood, Humanity, Earth, Common Sense, and Professionalism.  Will you grant me the same assurity whether I be from the Blue or Red State?

 

I would really love it if you would share a few specifics of what exactly makes you angry about a meritocraticly run organization?  Are you suggesting that a traditional command and control corporate model in this instance is going to succeed where all the others are failing?

10:41 pm
February 26, 2011


Brian Self

Guest

Eric Harris-Braun said:

As you are considering the governance structure, I'd recommend looking at BetterMeans and reading the open enterprise manifesto:

http://bettermeans.org/front/l.....manifesto/

And especially their open governance model:

http://bettermeans.com/front/o.....model.html

Sociocracy is a nice structure, but it's missing a bunch of the details that really make things work, especially in a distributed organization.  The folks at bettermeans have taken some good steps in filling those details.

 


Hey Guys,

 

The you tube video feels too new agey and lofty.  This stuff covers over the real fundamental and foundational principles that make something like what you envision work.  This kind of stuff is a turn off and pushes me away and makes me angry.  Most people who want to do something like this aren't spending much time into all the etheric stuff because they know it is a bunch of crap and has little to do with what we face today.  Spirituality is not going to save our planet... it would have worked by now if that was the case.  I believe our humanity and personhood rooted here in earth will because it is the most neglected and congested part of human beings. I spent many years as a new age / spiritual nice guy only to discover that 99% of it was a cover to suppress the rage under neath.

I am not interested in any new age / lofty ideal banks.  I want professional banks with these values that you offer because they are real and common sense and fully grounded in reality and real value.  Organic agriculture, non gmo, sustainablity and responsible lending and lending to only those who uphold these values is just common sense.  If we do not do these things we will have no future left for our selves and our children to grow healthy in strong in societies that support them to thrive in all domains of life.

 

Best regards,

Brian

3:26 pm
February 24, 2011


Richard Todd Chinnock

Admin

posts 39

Post edited 4:03 pm - February 24, 2011 by Richard Todd Chinnock


Greetings to our tribe of the Common Wo~Man,

(William-This was a good opener to help us get grounded, but we need more specificity.)

(John- I suggest that somewhere on this thread you post a link to your original proposal)

I am in full agreement with these main principles of the organizational proposal for Common Good Finance.

   1. Top down, bottom up flows of responsibility.  Circle Members, Reps, Conveners, Board Members, ExD/Peon in Chief etc…

   2. Invitation Principle.  Invitation sent to all FM (some areas of contention, but not at this current moment)

   3. Wholistic embodiment of foundational structure for Common Good Communities. 

Please watch this video.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....g_NOWWdFrw

Now that I've stated my opinion and provided it's requisite artsy fartsy flare lets provide some context.

It appears to me that what we are actually undertaking is the creation of the first Member's Association while at the same time activating support for CGF in relation to our "Campaign for a Common Good Economy" which is mostly about getting the bank chartered.  In addition, after chartering the main function of CGF as I understand it will be to safeguard all the intellectual property of CGB.  Seeing as CGF is composed of staff and the founding membership it makes sense that it could be considered a Member's Association of the whole aka Circulo Numero Uno.  This means that how we organize the ground up movement of Common Wo~Men into decision making positions within CGF will need to account for diverse geographical locations and/or conceptual positions.

Currently, the hotbeds of activity are the greater Berkshire area and the greater Pioneer Valley.  Both are in Massachusetts.  However, we should not plan as though that will remain as such for too long.  In addition we ought to remember that it takes 50 people, 5 businesses, and 1 non profit in any unifying geographical location to qualify to be recognized as a branch of CGB.  This realistically means that once certain groups have grown in size within these hotbed areas they will create splinter CGBs of folks who felt they were getting outvoted too often and so have rallied to create their own branch to fund their project for the Common Good.  This should be encouraged in my mind as the data shows that consensus has a better chance in smaller groups.  Plus, it will be a venue for those whose goal is to preserve specific cultural heritages or have focused expertise with other minority issues.

I caution that we not go too wild thinking that all circles we might have in mind belong as a part of CGF proper.  A major area that we need to contend with is staff.  Who are they?  What do they do?  How do we economically recognize their contributions?  Take William for example. . .I heard talk about getting him a sum of money (less than 750$) in recognition of his work (whips out official transparency brigade badge).  That is a pittance even if all I relate it to is the value he has created in my life and I'm not even sure that he got it anyway!

Where is the organizational structure as it stands?  William, seated in relative comfort, chained to a desk and deigning from on low how its gonna go.  With his homies on the board watching his back with real power to grab him by the ear and say "bad idea!"  This was perfect until our first communities have built themselves into the 50+ member range.

As far as I know the rest of the staff are on contract with an hourly wage paid from an entitlement of 60% of donations that they are responsible for garnering.  There most likely has been exceptions to this rule, but I do not know the details.  I personally believe in the interest of transparency, all contracts should be viewable by founding members.

To my mind, the major point that William shared with those of us at the retreat about the historical development of CGB, was that last year a consulting firm was paid to analyze the organization.  The consulting firm came back with 3 major suggestions.

   1. Get an active board.  Board members who are founding members themselves and conduct day to day operations for CGF.

   2. Re brand everything under Common Good.  Drop S2BE.

   3. Run a concentrated campaign in the geographical locations of highest interest.

Number 2 is done.  Number 3 is rollin' along!  Number 1 is all that's left to do to provide a solid foundation for the organization.

Getting to understand the board was one of my main reasons for coming out to the retreat.  I gather it was also a pivotal point for some of those who also attended the retreat.  They wanted to get to know who and what they had invested in or were considering investing in.  (I use the word invest here to denote time, donations, pledges etc.)  Only three members showed up counting William.  Of the two, one wasn't able to commit to the entire weekend and while he showed a deep mind he also negated himself on some levels during my interactions with him.  I kept feeling that there was more available with him, but that he did not feel complete confidence in his ability to make decisions for a project of this magnitude.  The other, whom I had the pleasure of spending considerable small group time with, began the weekend thinking that we needed to take 15 years before we ever left the confines of western mass.  My jaw literally dropped open in amazement and I hope I did not embarrass him or myself for that matter.  Quite clearly we do not have 15 years to putz around on our, "nice nice, lets all have enough!"  program.

That being said, I most sincerely hope that those two honorable gentlemen will recognize their unique place and respect the opportunity the universe (or whatever you like) is providing them.  The same goes to all other members of the board.  The time for concentrated commitment is now.  The holding pattern will no longer serve the Common Good.

This was why I chose to participate in the Board Committee group.  All board members must be actively engaged in work for the Common Good Community.  This was why our group suggested that we use the proxy concept to determine who the most trusted members of our community were and then to task them with "Activating/Diversifying the Board."  We admitted to ourselves that it could fail and that maybe no definite individuals could be said to be "most trusted".  However, we were able to find definite individuals.  It was my sense that the membership felt as though they did something important to move forward.  I agree with that sentiment.

It is my opinion that this item must be completed before we have an official position on organizational structure. The following is my theoretical approach to implementing Circle Organizing.

 

The nominating committee, hereby referred to as N.C., should be tasked with interviewing the current board and determining who stays, who goes.  Then William should issue his invitation to join the board circle to the membership.  William may spell out his invitation in anyway he sees fit (as advised by the N.C.), including such options as areas of expertise required, gender and racial diversity requirements etc.  The thing I would most like to see at this point is diversity of actions creating value.  We can handle the more challenging issues of diversity once we have a broad enough base.

 

William and the N.C. then interview all respondents.  William and the board accept those that seem appropriate.  Have full reports filed by each member of the N.C. accounting for their part in the process.  Why they decided as they did.  Where did they disagree with what ended up happening.  What they were pleased with and the reason.  Why it is they arrived at consensus with the results ect.  Have them spend 5-10 minutes in meeting to relate their experience.

 

If there were any serious problems one of the members of the N.C. should call for a confidence, no confidence vote if two will second and third, the vote is carried out.  One week's time should then be given for further discussion.  If a no confidence vote is arrived at after the discussion period, the N.C. will file the recommendations presented them by the membership.  Adaptions will be decided upon by William and the board with oversight by the N.C.  Re-present until we have a confidence vote.

 

One last article on the Board Circle.  The Peon in Chief (ExecutiveDirector) ought to be a meritocratic position.  Meaning that only those who have spent considerable amount of time within the Common Good Community providing value shall be considered and selected by the board for nomination.  The nominees accomplishments in the community are cataloged and sent out with an endorsement by the nominees proxy.  Ample discussion and then the founding membership votes on the nominees.

 

William…Peon in Chief, Uber Merit Boyscout, Merit till he dies…Spademan!  HooRah!  Seriously though.  This should be considered.

 

Once we have a board there is confidence in and, we can approach the circle organization proposal in relation to CGF.  As Nigel points out, there will need to be an analysis of current bylaws and changes made as necessary to coincide with the organizational principles we intend to manifest.

 

The role of CGF is to properly represent/protect CGB intellectual property to/from the public/regulators and also to represent the Member's Associations to CGB and regulators (I see it as a needed addition to the role of Division Advisor that will emerge from the bank proxy process).  It is tasked in the greater manifested framework of the CGE to wield the power of banishment.  We must keep this in mind as we move forward to make sure this power is used effectively and prudently.

 

With our new Board Circle and Peon in Chief process we have the hierarchy we need to mesh with society and law as it stands currently.  Then the board can begin implementing a process to acquire conveners.  The Conveners should be contracted to CGF and accept fair share of the staff compensation budget.  These may include paid experts from outside the organization if we accept that their circle has a limited lifespan convened only to accomplish a task that none of our members were capable of accomplishing and has proper oversight.  Depending on the size of the task being undertaken each convener will be allowed staff to suit the needs of their circle.  Staff will be chosen from current membership whenever possible.  All value created, but not recognized economically will be accounted for payment soon after bank chartering.  If possible, I would like to see a better path towards establishing stock ownership through work.  Still requiring a minimum amount of stock to be bought conventionally is acceptable.  Perhaps a 3-1 ratio between conventional and work?

 

There are six first circles that ring around the center circle.  The circles to be convened are

  • Administration/Treasury/Law
  • I.T. (bank)/I.T. (general)/Research and Development
  • Campaign/Branding/Politics
  • Education/Orientation/Business
  • Members Association/Transparency/Bank
  • Mediation/Counseling/H.R.

Granted, at this time we are not in a place to flesh all of this out.  But we will be, oh yes, we will be…moving on. 

 

Rick's 3 tracks, which provided the foundation for the above, have specified for us our list of importance.

  1. Campaign- Can't have community if no one knows about it!
  2. Education/Orientation- Can't create culture if no one knows how!
  3. Community/Members Association- Won't get transparency or sovereignty without being in the mix!

We also need to consider the vast importance of having proper I.T. tools to accomplish what we are after.

 

There!  Do those of you who attended the retreat who voted for Ms. Meier's Stalinist, work camp, food program feel confident in where such theories as Circle Organizing are leading us?Wink

 

Next time…"Bubble ups!"….Umm? Excuse you….."No honestly, I meant that in an exteremly serious manner."

2:29 pm
February 23, 2011


Eric Harris-Braun

Guest

As you are considering the governance structure, I'd recommend looking at BetterMeans and reading the open enterprise manifesto:

http://bettermeans.org/front/l.....manifesto/

And especially their open governance model:

http://bettermeans.com/front/o.....model.html

Sociocracy is a nice structure, but it's missing a bunch of the details that really make things work, especially in a distributed organization.  The folks at bettermeans have taken some good steps in filling those details.

 

2:33 pm
February 21, 2011


John G Root Jr

Member

posts 39

rjones proposal to have nominees selected by a group of randomly chosen people seems to me to something that we may want to consider in the future.  It is good to have it on the table.

For now, it seems to me important that any Founding Member who wants to respond to the various invitations to join circles that will be going out in the near future may do so.  This will allow people to become active in supporting the development of the campaign.  When we have gotten to the point where the numbers in the circles are getting unwieldy we may consider other ways of selecting them.  But I would be wary of a method that does not really respect the inspiration that people will feel to take on some aspect of the process.  From my study of the hidden history it is clear to me that the popular culture understanding of democracy is designed to hide the manipulation that goes on.  Replacing our usual understanding of democracy with a process that leads towards consensus, where the purpose of using voting is more to take the temperature of the community regarding particular issues than it is to determine results will gradually allow us to replace winner take all democracy with much more subtle and sophisticated ways of gauging the popular will.  In a wonderful book called Fixing the System, Adam Kuzminski points out how important face to face meetings are for allowing the spirit of the community to speak (for spirit one may substitute "will of the people").  This effort to allow our healthy human judgement to enter into the political process is what circle organizing is designed to foster.

However, I do not yet have an opinion about what the effect of random selection has.  Juries, for example, which are fairly randomly selected, have been both the source of our rights and the sanction of their perversion!

John G Root Jr

The Means Assures the End. Do the Good!

6:09 pm
February 20, 2011


rjones

Member

posts 16

(I thought my previous post had taken, but apparently not.) 

I like the proposal.  My question is how nominees will be chosen.  It seems to me there needs to be step 3 to the process for selection.  As a check and balance measure, I would like to see a selection process used that helped to ensure both fairness and quality assurance.

For the process of selecting any new members, create an ad hoc selection committee made up of 3-5 randomly chosen people from nearby circles, i.e., people who have a feel for what kind of leadership/expertise is needed.  Randomly choosing selection people helps to assure unbiased appointments.  The ad hoc committee could be disbanded, or serve for a set period of time, say, a year.  I realize this adds a layer, but it also adds integrity to the process.

An exception could be made for the Board.  However, if each standing committee is responsible for creation of its own subcommittees, then you seem to be back to a top down polity.  The question is again, "Who makes the decision?"  --as with profits--so with people!

 

8:31 am
February 20, 2011


John G Root Jr

Member

posts 39

Post edited 2:42 pm - February 23, 2011 by wspademan


The last two posts both show awareness of the power of cooperatives to get us going in the direction we want.  I was pleased to see the Rainbow Crocery video which included other examples of cooperatives and collectives, and Mondragon is a good model for all of us interested in creating a society to benefit everyone to become familiar with.  The Common Good Bank needs to be chartered by the people, not just rich people.  This is what the Founding Membership idea is all about.  When you have seen the potential that the Common Good Bank offers for us to reclaim our sovereignty, how it gives us the power to create real community using real money, then we trust you will sign up as a Founding Member, with a donation to fund the campaign, a pledge to lend the money needed to charter the CGB and a promise to buy stock in the bank.  Then we hope you will join the Campaign for a Common Good Economy.  At present we are working to give the Campaign shape and focus.  The circle organizing principle will assure that we are always working with the "people",  Circle Organizing allows everyone to participate in meaningful ways, so that we all can be sure that what we are doing to further the campaign is in a good relationship with what everyone else is doing.  We build the Common Good Communities we will need to take full advantage of the bank as we go!

The Means Assures the End. Do the Good!

11:23 pm
February 19, 2011


David Kendall

Guest

Post edited 3:22 pm - February 24, 2011 by Richard Todd Chinnock


A better math example should be used. For example, how about a 'time value of money' problem? After all, isn't that what 'banking' is all about?

Meanwhile, this non-hierarchical arrangement looks fine to me. In fact, it looks very similar to the Mondragon system that you and I have discussed previously, which is based on Finance, Formation, and Technology. Please see Greg MacLeod's book, "From Mondragon to America", which I mailed to you recently.

As usual, my primary complaint is that the CGB system is still a matter of theory while the Mondragon system has been implemented very effectively for more than 50 years.

What is it going to take to get the Common Good Bank rolling?  How do you plan to successfully and sustainably evade the traditional requirements of chartering a bank?

(post edited to remove off topic criticisms)

8:26 pm
February 18, 2011


Jim Miller

Guest

Dear Common Good Finance neighbors,

May I suggest that a precursor to the formation of any egalitarian
organization is a study of Mondragon Cooperative Corporation, and a
study of the Rainbow Grocery in San Francisco and the Cheese Board in
Berkeley.  By "study" I mean watching the videos about
three times over a course of three weeks and searching the Web for
suitable articles relating to each group, reading the articles and
the passing them on to others via the forum or a wikiweb. This
background is needed to allow the "founders" to grasp the
essentials of a worker cooperative style of management.  The
videos are at:

BBC Documentary  (probably during the 1970s) at:
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en#

Rainbow Grocery and the Cheese Board at:

http://video.google.com/videos.....p;start=10

Rather than trying to describe
“positions” or “jobs” or “Circles of Influence” or “Silos
of jurisdiction”, or “Committee scope”, we should focus first
on the numerous tasks to be performed for both the initial
organizational effort as well as the long-term operational efforts.
This will be a mind-stretching effort, calculated to drill down in to
the small details as each task branches and is further defined..

 The basic approach is that everyone has
every right to proposed one or more tasks, how each task is to be
developed and performed and how funded. Quality assurance or value
engineering also has a role to make sure the solutions are logical
and legal.

This egalitarian approach generally is
regarded as “brain storming”, but there is now a better way of
keeping the thoughts somewhat organized, that is using “mind
mapping”. This approach has been used by sociologists for years as
“sociograms”.[which reference people; mind-mapping references
thoughts]. Now we have highly interactive software to accomplish
the job. I spent about three weeks searching for such software and
playing with the “free trials”. The best I found was “Personal
Brain” (PB) by http://www.thebrain.com.
It is very easy to learn, great fun, and has great tutorials and
the best online support as well as email. It has a has a free trial.
The “core” license is only $149. Further, PB also has an online
version which can be fully synchronized between a user's PC and the
Online “Web Brain”. Check it out.

 As a suggestion, the reader might be
interested in a task list I prepared for Small Business Investment
Exchange (not a bank but a share exchange for L3Cs ) at:
http://sbic.wetpaint.com/page/.....+TASK+LIST

 I invite comments, especially after the
reader has watched both videos mentioned above and has evaluated PB.
If you will install the free trial, I can email you the “brainzip”
file for Small Business Investment Exchange so you can see how the
mind mapping works in a business setting. I am very interested in
what William Spademan has proposed as it begins the process of
creative construction of Common Good Bank/Finance.

 

Jim Miller

jimmiller5417-at-gmail -dot-com

 



6:31 pm
February 18, 2011


Nick Stanton

Guest

On the parent/child or mother/daughter terminology, I would like to offer the option of upline/downline.  

I know some, maybe even many, of us have been invloved in multilevel marketing and may have a bit of a bad taste for this idea but I think that we could soon get over that because upline/downline would really work well.

It is simple and clear, the meaning is obvious and in fact our multilevel memories may even serve us in this situation because we already know that any level is the downline of its upline and the upline of its downline.  

2:07 pm
February 18, 2011


John G Root Jr

Member

posts 39

Parent and child circles seems not to be resonating.  Any other ideas?  Mother and Daughter circles?  Smile

The Means Assures the End. Do the Good!

11:59 am
February 18, 2011


Kathleen Williams

Guest

I think the structure looks very sound. But it makes a difference what you call things. I have always found "executive director" to sound overinflated. Why not president-- and if there is another office for the board president, maybe chairperson (or chairman never bothered me). Definitely take away "child" and "parent" titles-- maybe they could be circles and squares. (Laugh)

11:09 am
February 17, 2011


Suzanne Bowles

Guest

Suzanne Bowles said:

Looks great!  Thanks for the education and inspiration.

 

Just a couple brief inquiries/comments:

"The board will elect an Executive Director."  Would the ED be a hired position- overseen, but not managed to closely by the board- to ensure the administrative functioning of the Board?  Ideally- -there would be money to pay this person and to maintain an impersonal performance based relationship.  Or-a re you thinking that the Board Pres/ED would be the same person initially, because of limited funds and a need to keep all decision making close to the initiating board? These are important distinctions when thinking about job performance/expectations and power dynamics.

 This was written before seeing John's comment below.  thanks!

How is Quality Assurance handled?  A structure like this may require a great deal of checking for consistency, communication and accuracy/accountability.  Would there be a position on the Board that would be specifically dedicated to ensuring that the process is working and being maintained.  I bet you a wiki or some other online tool could really suppot transparency

Laugh


 

11:07 am
February 17, 2011


Suzanne Bowles

Guest

Looks great!  Thanks for the education and inspiration.

 

Just a couple brief inquiries/comments:

"The board will elect an Executive Director."  Would the ED be a hired position- overseen, but not managed to closely by the board- to ensure the administrative functioning of the Board?  Ideally- -there would be money to pay this person and to maintain an impersonal performance based relationship.  Or-a re you thinking that the Board Pres/ED would be the same person initially, because of limited funds and a need to keep all decision making close to the initiating board? These are important distinctions when thinking about job performance/expectations and power dynamics.

 

How is Quality Assurance handled?  A structure like this may require a great deal of checking for consistency, communication and accuracy/accountability.  Would there be a position on the Board that would be specifically dedicated to ensuring that the process is working and being maintained.  I bet you a wiki or some other online tool could really suppot transparency

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3:20 pm
February 16, 2011


John G Root Jr

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Post edited 8:58 am - February 17, 2011 by wspademan


It is wonderfully encouraging that all the comments are positive.  What seems most important to me is that we conceive the circle organizing as serving us, that we do what makes sense, and that we share our experience of using it and refine it as we go.  I am very appreciative of Nigel's and Carol's comments because they prompted my proposed Invitation to the Education and Orientation Circle.  I am also very clear that voting is a failure of consensus, but needs to be possible when we admit that consensus failed in a particular instance.
 

The essence of the structure is the invitation to all Founding Members, the two way representation and the disciplined consensus which includes how representatives and conveners are chosen.  Circles will be confronted with many questions, including how many members to have, how to choose members when the agreed number would otherwise be exceeded, how to measure commitment, etc.  What I would like to see, is that the structure serves the process of recognizing the inspiration of the spirit at work in the members, in the circles and in the overall Campaign.  The structure is intended to support the work in a way that inspires us to act out of our ideals, not compromise them.

The Executive Director and William Spademan are the same until such time as the enterprise, including William, recognize that someone more able has bubbled up and is needed in that position.  This would have to be a very clear recognition and seen as an orderly and entirely positive succession.  In the circle organizing it is reasonable to see that William is in a special position, with the ultimate responsibility to assure that circle organizing is working.  As an example of an appropriate use of democracy William could ask the Founding Members to express their confidence in the Board of Directors, the Executive Director and each Board member on a scale of a to e, with a no opinion and veto option. This would give the Board and the Exectuve feedback on how well they were doing and allow them to take up any issues that the result showed was needing attention.  This is not part of Circle Organizing, but such things should not be argued against because they are not part of a strict interpretation of circle organizing, but accepted because it serves a purpose relevant to the success of the enterprise.  The structure we use to assure our success should always be seen as serving the mission, and should not be used to effect a short term tactical end.

It is possible to use the circle organizing structure to have the best of both worlds.  We can have strong leaders and the benefits of clarity and accomplishment we associate with that model, and the consensus process which can give us the structure of belonging, community, that we want for the future. 

John

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2:21 pm
February 16, 2011


Sarah Schmidt

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This looks like an excellent approach to me. I have experienced a similar organizational structure in non-profits and the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) and it works well.

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